Wow. I meant to comment on that article but then I fell into one of the numerous argumentative holes in that story and got lost in the darkness. Too bad.
Heh, I had the same reaction.
Chrome is impressive in many ways. But, I have an instance of Chrome with 28 tabs open in one window and I have a Firefox session of 50+20+40+10 equaling well over 100 tabs in all of my windows. The Firefox sessions runs smoothly while opening things in Chrome can take forever. But, that article is just so people will paste the link all around the web and then he’ll get to keep his job from the extra advertising revenue. 🙂
@Tom – when Google makes a new Cheese & Macaroni, it’s obvious that everyone will switch to it, too. I mean, really, I don’t even know why people don’t just lay down and accept that it’s inevitable. Kraft is set in its ways. Their narrow-minded blue and orange box, longer cook time and inferior cheese sauce will be the end of them.
@Fritz – yeah, but I felt like it was important to point this one out considering it’s not even out for Linux and the guy is supposed to be writing about Linux topics. But I imagine it’s fun to be the guy without a real opinion carrying the “the end is nigh” sign while everybody else is doing real work.
I don’t understand what he thinks Mozilla is doing. He writes the article as though they’re doing something drastically different to everyone else. Well, what?
Apart from being the most vocal and responsive in terms of security issues, Mozilla’s pretty much just doing what everyone else is, tuning, tweaking and adding new features.
I don’t know about you guys, but set the story in 2001, replace “Firefox” with “Mozilla” and “Chrome” with “Phoenix”, and the story appears quite accurate.
Firefox is going down the bloat and resource-hungry path. Before Chrome appeared, TraceMonkey was even scheduled to be put off and not appear in Firefox 3.5 due to “excessive bugs”. Mozilla can forget what it started out to do and repeat SeaMonkey’s history all over again if it wants, but it needs to not be surprised when people notice and point that out.
Easier to break all the rules if you’re not worried about regressions. So yeah, if Firefox has to delay for the right reasons, so be it. There’s a responsibility to active users to not break the experience they already have trying to reach for the extra milliseconds.
Along those lines, Microsoft doesn’t have it easy, and fully testing something that will impact millions is not something people think about when they are bickering about which non-MS browser is teh p0wn0r.
Ben’s point above is still true. I don’t see Firefox bundled with a mail client or web editor, so the analogy is a stretch aside from the fact that it was simply something new. And the other browsers aren’t that drastically different in feature sets, so the bloat comment doesn’t really float unless you’ve got some specifics about the platform or js engine that you want to discuss in detail — and you should — just on your own blog.
All bickering aside, I think it’s just an exciting time for the web. Users will benefit from the competition and I’m excited about that. Of course we are challenged and want to do the best job to respond to the industry — but deep down we are appreciative of the fact that today people know they have a choice and that this conversation is happening at all.
Not sure I enjoy the trolling though. If people want to quote stats from actual (unbiased and open sourced) tests and focus on facts, that’s cool with me. It’s the empty rhetoric and blanket comments or analogies I can’t stomach. Surely we can rise above empty blogs that reference slashdot comments (wtf?).
@Tom – use your real email. See also: Penny Arcade
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Wow. I meant to comment on that article but then I fell into one of the numerous argumentative holes in that story and got lost in the darkness. Too bad.
Heh, I had the same reaction.
Chrome is impressive in many ways. But, I have an instance of Chrome with 28 tabs open in one window and I have a Firefox session of 50+20+40+10 equaling well over 100 tabs in all of my windows. The Firefox sessions runs smoothly while opening things in Chrome can take forever. But, that article is just so people will paste the link all around the web and then he’ll get to keep his job from the extra advertising revenue. 🙂
@Tom – when Google makes a new Cheese & Macaroni, it’s obvious that everyone will switch to it, too. I mean, really, I don’t even know why people don’t just lay down and accept that it’s inevitable. Kraft is set in its ways. Their narrow-minded blue and orange box, longer cook time and inferior cheese sauce will be the end of them.
@Fritz – yeah, but I felt like it was important to point this one out considering it’s not even out for Linux and the guy is supposed to be writing about Linux topics. But I imagine it’s fun to be the guy without a real opinion carrying the “the end is nigh” sign while everybody else is doing real work.
I don’t understand what he thinks Mozilla is doing. He writes the article as though they’re doing something drastically different to everyone else. Well, what?
Apart from being the most vocal and responsive in terms of security issues, Mozilla’s pretty much just doing what everyone else is, tuning, tweaking and adding new features.
I don’t know about you guys, but set the story in 2001, replace “Firefox” with “Mozilla” and “Chrome” with “Phoenix”, and the story appears quite accurate.
Firefox is going down the bloat and resource-hungry path. Before Chrome appeared, TraceMonkey was even scheduled to be put off and not appear in Firefox 3.5 due to “excessive bugs”. Mozilla can forget what it started out to do and repeat SeaMonkey’s history all over again if it wants, but it needs to not be surprised when people notice and point that out.
Easier to break all the rules if you’re not worried about regressions. So yeah, if Firefox has to delay for the right reasons, so be it. There’s a responsibility to active users to not break the experience they already have trying to reach for the extra milliseconds.
Along those lines, Microsoft doesn’t have it easy, and fully testing something that will impact millions is not something people think about when they are bickering about which non-MS browser is teh p0wn0r.
Ben’s point above is still true. I don’t see Firefox bundled with a mail client or web editor, so the analogy is a stretch aside from the fact that it was simply something new. And the other browsers aren’t that drastically different in feature sets, so the bloat comment doesn’t really float unless you’ve got some specifics about the platform or js engine that you want to discuss in detail — and you should — just on your own blog.
All bickering aside, I think it’s just an exciting time for the web. Users will benefit from the competition and I’m excited about that. Of course we are challenged and want to do the best job to respond to the industry — but deep down we are appreciative of the fact that today people know they have a choice and that this conversation is happening at all.
Not sure I enjoy the trolling though. If people want to quote stats from actual (unbiased and open sourced) tests and focus on facts, that’s cool with me. It’s the empty rhetoric and blanket comments or analogies I can’t stomach. Surely we can rise above empty blogs that reference slashdot comments (wtf?).
@Tom – use your real email. See also: Penny Arcade